Okay, it's hard to believe, but I've been production sewing for a living for over 15 years and cut it all by hand. But now my hands are tired of cutting and I am entertaining the thought of a rotary cutter. The main reason I never got one b4 is that none of the mats I've seen are big enuf to lay out the main thing I cut out which is pants...Anyway I would love to hear what cutters, and what size, others have used and if you know where to get a mat bigger than 28x36. Also wondering if anyone sharpens their own blades, as they seem quite expensive. Thanks
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Tue, November 13, 2007 - 6:54 PMI LOVE my rotary cutter. I use it all the time. And I got a big mat for $45 at Discount Fabrics on 4th St in San Francisco... I almost bought two to place next to each other. Hm, maybe I should go get another one, now that I think about it.... Or, go to Tap Plastics, tell them that you'd be cutting on it so they give you the right stuff, and have them cut you a piece of plastic the size of your table. I had a friend do that, and she's used it for years.
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Tue, November 13, 2007 - 8:11 PMI'd like to bring your attention to a cutting mat alternative, one that I've used for the past 15 years. The stuff is called "VYCO" and is a board cover for drawing tables, drafting tables, etc. It's what architects use on their drawing tables. Waaaaaaaaaaay back when rotary cutters first came out, the cutting mats were made of this stuff. They were flexible, not at all stiff like the cutting mats are today. It has a "self-healing" surface, but to be sure, if you bear down hard enough, you will slice right through it.
I have a cutting table, 45"x60". I had a Vyco mat cut to that dimension at my local engineering supply store. They stock Vyco in rolls and will happily cut a smaller sheet for you, if they don't have a pre-cut sheet in a size you want in their remnant bin. My first mat lasted about 7 years - and let me tell you, it was used constantly. The corner of the table where I habitually cut my fabric got the most wear, but when the slices from the rotary cutter became too annoying, I just rotated the entire mat on my cutting tale so a new corner was being used.
I haven't noticed that my rotary cutters dull any faster on it than on the rigid mats.
If you do a Google search on 'vyco', you will come up with a number of hits ... look for places that also sell the board cover and ignore the sites that are selling items with Vyco already on it. Vyco comes in rolls (way too much for an individual's use) as well as pre-cut sheets. The prices I've found online are extremely reasonable .. compare them to comparably sized Fiskars and Olfa rigid mat prices!
From one of the websites, I've copied the blurb for Vyco:
VYCO vinyl board cover is durable, versatile, and easy-to-install. This 5-ply vinyl board cover (often referred to as BORCO) is designed specifically to protect heavily used surfaces. Available in 10-yard rolls or pre-cut sheets, our VYCO features:
* Perfect, smooth, stain-resistant working surface for all drawing boards, tables, desks, reference tables, inspection tables, sorting tables, filing cabinets, craft tables, sewing tables, countertops, and shelving.
* Compass points, tacks, and hard pencil impressions will not mar VYCO-protected surfaces; self-sealing surface recovers almost immediately.
* Translucent VYCO is ideal for use with lightboxes or for protecting fine wood and glass-topped furniture. Useful over graph paper or as a desk protector.
* Preserves and protects expensive furniture against mars, scars, cuts, dents; prolongs the life of new boards and table tops.
* Will not deteriorate, discolor or crack.
* Easy to clean with a damp cloth or sponge. Mild all-purpose cleaner such as "409" works well.
* Easy to install. VYCO vinyl board cover cuts to size easily with scissors, attaches with double-sided tape. [note: I did *not* use double-sided tape on my mat .. it's heavy enough that it just lies on top of my cutting table]
3 styles available:
Green/Cream – One side no-glare green, the other a rich cream color
Gray/White – One side elegant pearl gray, the other a soft matte white
Translucent – See-through clear
So, consider this having your consciousness raised about alternative to the rigid Fiskars & Olfa mats. :-) -
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Tue, November 13, 2007 - 8:16 PMhmmm, I didn't know you could cut on that without leaving a mark. My table is covered in it, but I've cut through it before by accident. Are there different thicknesses? If so, I would totally get some of that stuff instead of a mat! :) -
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Thu, November 15, 2007 - 10:56 AMWow, Thanks for the info on the mats, just checked them out online and they are way cheaper than the others...So do you think the difference is that they don't have the rigid layer in between to block cutting thru? Think you sold me on that. So as far as cutters go, do you all think the olfa is worth the extra $? Was thinkin to get a 45mm to start. Never used a rotary b4 so not sure how they are around curves.. -
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Thu, November 15, 2007 - 2:27 PMthe smaller rotaries are better for smaller curves.
I use a 45mm (fiskars. I hated my Olfa and never use it), but want to get a smaller one for the tight curves
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Thu, November 15, 2007 - 4:24 PM"So do you think the difference is that they don't have the rigid layer in between to block cutting thru?"
Could be .. I don't know for sure. I do know that *I* find the rigid mats excessively obnoxious, both for transport to/from classes (they act like a sail if there's a breeze) and they don't come is the size I want. If you end up buying a larger sheet than you need, the excess might still be a usable size as portable cutting mats, it all depends on how much you cut away. I have a strip 44" x 10" which is absolutely perfect for cutting strips ... so don't just throw away the excess without looking at it for another purpose.
The Vyco mat is sturdy enough to sustain *years* of use, especially when I rotate the mat on my cutting table. Also, if you don't bear down excessively hard, you won't even *get* cuts in the mat. (I do a lot of quilting and cut thru as many as 8 layers of fabric, and at those times, I've used a lot of pressure to get thru the layers. If you're cutting fabric for garments, you won't have that problem at all.)
I don't know about the quality of brands of the rotary cutters. I have both Olfa and Fiskars blades but really haven't kept track if one lasts longer than the others. Perhaps someone with more knowledge on the blades themselves will chime in.
However, the larger the blade, the more difficult it is to go around tighter curves. I have 45mm and 28mm cutters. The 28mm is *wonderful* for zipping around small curves. BUT ... if you're using rotary cutters for garments, you'll still need to cut the notches with scissors! I haven't quite figured out how to do notches with a rotary cutter. :-)
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Thu, November 15, 2007 - 9:00 PMWell, easy solution is, you don't need to cut out notches at all...I find 2/3 of notches useless (like in the middle of side seams???) and for the essential ones (collar to neckline, say) just use tailors tacks -
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Thu, November 15, 2007 - 11:06 PM"...ou don't need to cut out notches at all..... and for the essential ones (collar to neckline, say) just use tailors tacks"
True, true, but I am a creature of habit and feel absolutely *compelled* to either cut the notches or clip the notches. I am quite sure that the All-seeing Sewing Police will swoop down upon my poor head if I neglect those notches! :-)
Tailor tacks! ack! I remember being traumatized by tailor tacks in my very early sewing attempts. I think I need to get out my smelling salts .. I feel faint. :-)
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Fri, November 16, 2007 - 12:37 AMI generally don't cut notches either, just mark them with chalk.. So I bought a fiscers cutter after reading some reviews on another site, and am ordering the vyco mat tomorrow. I'm not sure if the rigid layer is the difference, but from my research that's all I could figure. I doubt I'll be bearing down that hard. A friend of mine just complained of her mat getting kind of rough and snagging her fabrics. She said she had to sand it alot to even it out. I hope if I rotate it, I won't have that problem. Thanks for all the ideas. I really appreciate tribe for stuff like this. :) -
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Fri, November 16, 2007 - 8:25 AMAnother shout out of Thanks! - I also ordered a vyco mat last night (found good prices on amazon). I have never felt as adept w/ a rotary cutter as with shears, but as I delve more into quiltmaking am making myself work with them more....so my question to those who really prefer Fiskars to Olfa (the latter is what I have): before I buy new stuff, what specifically makes the Fiskars a better choice for you? -
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Tue, December 4, 2007 - 12:00 AMOkay, so I recently recieved my new vyco mat and bought the fiscars cutters. It's soo exciting! So far I'm feeling a little uncertain about the whole thing tho. I've tried cutting stretch fabrics that are fairly thick, like velvet, and also fake fur 2 layers at a time. I'm having a problem with the fabric that is on top bunching up as I cut. Maybe I just don't have the right touch yet, or do you all think that the rotary citters are really just good for wovens, like for quilts? Any technique suggestions would be welcome. Also wondering what material folks are using for their patterns. At this point mine are all paper and I find myself cutting off the edges...I bought the fiscars cutters cuz I read some reviews more people seemed to give them positive reviews. So far, and I haven't been cutting long, I don't like the position of the button that retracts the blade. I keep pressing it by accident while I'm cutting.. -
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Sat, December 29, 2007 - 9:11 PMAwesome discussion! I havent been catching up with this forum lately - seems like Ive missed much.
Im not doing production, just samples but I got tired of cutting by hand and bought a hand cutter. Youre talking electric right? Mine had a grindstone attached so you could press a button to sharpen the blade as soon as you could feel it go dull. By far the best thing about it IMO, the rest... I dunno - I never really got into it (and then someone stole it from me). It was too hard to do sharp curves. I still prefer a rotary but I just use a regular one, not electric. I basically just bought the biggest self healing mat I could find. I somehow end up working with really complex patterns all the time so I have to pin a lot. I end up cutting around the pattern really quick just to get the piece loose so theres no risk of any pull or recovery, then once its loose I position it on my mat and start cutting with the rotary.
Would love to hear how the VYCO mat works out for you - I cant believe that I havent heard of this sooner! Ive been looking ALL OVER for a really big cutting mat. One of those things that you just KNOW exists but you just cant find it.
On the fabric bunching - are you using weights and/or layering paper? If not try one or both and make sure the weights are close to the edge (but not so close you cant cut obviously). You can get tissue paper in large roles and I dont think its very expensive.
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Tue, January 15, 2008 - 7:10 AMvyco...wow never thought of that. good idea!
If you want a really large mat 48"x 96" with a one inch grid and bias cut lines try one from Atlanta thread.
I have had mine for 5 years and LOVE LOVE LOVE it so much I have even been known to fall sleep on top of it.
look for the Mega Mat at the bottom of the page.
store.atlantathread.com/rocuma.html
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Thu, December 20, 2007 - 10:59 PMWhat do people think about electric scissors? I got a pair at a garage sale for a few bucks -- pretty good shape, but I find it hard to get used to, but I wonder how that compares to a rotary cutter. -
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Fri, December 28, 2007 - 7:37 PMi remember using these in the 70s when i was learning to sew, but htey were a joke... the scissors themselves a) vibrated, so your fabric usually shimmied out of position, b) the cord usually pulled the fabric out of position, and c) the lift is high for putting the scissors under the fabric and it pulls the fabric out of position. of course, back then i was making a lot of pretty party dresses and such, so maybe that was just too much satin, organdy, etc that i was using it on.
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Fri, February 15, 2008 - 11:53 PMUpdate on Vyco Mat
Okay I've been using my rotary cutter and mat for a couple months now. I'm really liking using the cutter, saves my hands. But I'm sorry to report that the Vyco mat isn't holding up. I've cut thru it in several spots. It's not super obvious and I can still use it, but wouldn't want to try to roll it up or move it. Not the long term investment I had hoped for.....
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